Glen Benton interviewed by PSL
There have been some speculations on why the Hoffman brothers are missing. Could you explain why they are not here?
Explain why they are not here? Eric and Brian have been doing nothing but cancelling shows on us and walking of tours and we can't continue to do that anymore. And they have issues, personal issues that I and Steve can't deal with anymore so I would say it's for the best.
Do they rejoin the band when you return home?
So it's permanent?
I'm aware of your collaboration with Dave Suzuki but how did you hook up with Jack Owen?
Jack, he stepped up to the plate [Jack says something in the background]. Nobody else would. It's hard to find people who can learn these songs as quick as these two did and they learned them quickly like within 24-48 hours so they are still learning songs. I mean with the Hoffmans a set was like 35 minutes and it's like we got the set up to an hour and a half already so we're doing songs… it's like we got tired of the bullshit if you know what I mean, not wanting to do the long sets, not playing their leads, not showing up, bullshitting us, lying to us, telling us to come to the airport and not showing up and other bullshit so we are tired of it. I mean more news will come out. We're going to do another record the replacements have already been picked for that so hey man, let's just keep going. I think it's better now because on-stage I'm a lot more… I'm able to do what I'm got to do without having that fucking problem which I say the Hoffmans are because they are a problem. We don't have that anymore and these two tear those guys apart and it's great. Dave shreds Eric's leads and Jack shreds Brian's leads and it's just great, it's even better so it's only going to get better. It's always been the problem having those two and their problem creating a problem so now that you have that out of the equation it's only positive good things that going to come about. They would rather sit at home and be broke and miserable than come out here and entertain the fans and they talk a big fucking game about this, that and the other. The bottom-line is whose here and whose not. They had every opportunity to do this tour and they didn't want to do it. They would rather stay home with their old ladies.
They have basically been the problem all the time or what?
Every tour we have ever cancelled, the Hoffmans. Every show we had to cancel, the Hoffmans. So how long can we keep letting that go on to a point where they destroy me and Steve's career too? So we're not let that going to happen anymore. So we take the bull by the horns and get rid of the problem and we'll make things better.
Okay this kind of answered my next question because I was going to ask about the controversy surrounding Deicide and in particular your person. People often complain about your attitude towards the fans!
My attitude towards the fans?
Yeah, I've read that on several occasions but it sounds like it's more the Hoffman brothers or what?
Listen man, I've never done anything but come out here and fucking entertain these kids, okay? It's not me I can fucking… I've been to Europe fucking and back fucking… I flew over here last week. We started the tour without… Steve's dad passed on. I came back I wouldn't miss the tour that's the type of individual that I am. Now the fans are we talking about kids that talk shit about me or the real fans who love the band, who love the music. Those fans are the ones that… anyone can walk up and talk to me. I mean I sign autographs what more the fuck should I do?
How much time have you had to practice with Jack and Dave?
We had one rehearsal before we left me, Jack and Steve.
So they've basically learned the songs as the tour progressed?
Dave came in because Eric said he was going to come and we're at the airport waiting and waiting and waiting and he's telling us that he's on his way. He never showed up so I called Dave from Vital Remains and Dave stepped up and started doing his homework. Within the second show... I mean the first show we only had eight songs but by the second show there were ten. It's like last week there's eleven, twelve, fourteen, sixteen if you know what I mean. That's how quick they learn them and it's like they doesn't just learn them. They learn them better, they do them better.
I read about your show in Oslo, Norway a few days ago on a message board and people seemed to agree that the band played tight and brutal.
[Dave applauds in the background while Glen laughs] Yeah man, it's only going to be better, okay? Eventually my plans are for the next Deicide record are to have Dave and Tony [Lazaro] from Vital Remains playing guitar on the album. Tony will be coming in on it too. Jack's got his own band that he does so we're going to go and just pretty much combine Deicide and Vital Remains. So that's basically our plan. Tony Lazaro, Dave Suzuki, Steve and myself. Look out we're fucking going to destroy people. It's only going to be better and I can't wait to shove it down a lot of people's throats. It's going to be good.
You were supposed to have played in Europe earlier this year but cancelled. The rumours and accusations were many but what is the truth?
We had a vote because the bus was fucking horrible. We sat outside for nine hour getting eaten up by bugs to have a bus pull up that when we walked inside we couldn't breath in it because the exhaust-fumes where so thick. That and there was bugs in my bed. The fucking thing was disgusting and we had a vote and the Hoffmans voted to go home so that's what happened. So it was Eric and Brian Hoffman once again.
So it wasn't Johan from Metallysee who was the only problem?
Oh yeah Johan. It was his fault because we wouldn't have had that vote if wasn't for Johan. If he had given us a nice bus as he had promised us we wouldn't have had that problem. But he gave us a bus that made us sick with the fucking twelve hours we were on it. We were all ready for the hospital with our eyes burning, our lungs burning, our throats burning. What are you supposed to do? Die? I wouldn't fucking die for that guy. And he was ripping us off. He charged the clubs two or three times the amount that he was giving us.
Which of your albums are you most satisfied with?
I think Once Upon the Cross. I just think about every song was great. Except from the last two, the ones that Eric wrote.
Okay, who writes the music in Deicide?
Who writes it? Me and Steve. Steve writes most of the music and I write all the lyrics. That's another problem we have with the Hoffmans. They want to be paid for songs they didn't write so guess what; Steve and I are not going to let that happen no more. They are mad about that. This is all about that because they are babies. "We need the free money" [Glen imitates a baby while hitting the table] guess what; the days are over with and they are all pissed off and sour about the fact that we're not giving them fucking money for songs they didn't write and that's one of the things that they are pissed off about.
I wanted to get that deal locked in as bad as they wanted to get it locked in. It's a 50/50 deal. That means lots of money. 50/50 deal equals lots of money.
So that's far better than what you had with Roadrunner back in the day?
Yeah, a 50/50 deal. Michael Jackson doesn't even have a 50/50 deal. I've never heard of a 50/50 in the music business. It's unheard of. You can check everywhere.
Have you commenced work on the follow-up to Scars of the Crucifix?
Steve has songs written. Tony has got some songs written. I mean it's just a matter of getting the four of us together.
And that will happen when you return from the tour or what?
We'll start working on it but got to get Tony down to Florida and shit. We're waiting on him right now. He got some real-estate transactions that he's trying to take care of so he can move down to Florida. I think Dave is ready to get out of Providence now [laughs]. I think he's ready for sunshine, beaches, bicycle rides, big blond bimbos [laughs].
How is your collaboration with Vital Remains going? Will there be another album now that you kind of have merged the two bands together?
I don't know. I mean how it's going to work. Like I told Tony; "You want to make nickels or you want to make quarters?" It's like to do the Deicide thing we stand to make more because we have a better record deal to do it. So why give the songs to a record company like [makes a fart noise] Century Media and fucking throw them away?